Big Brother 2014 Spoilers: Frankie Grande Rape Jokes – Too Far?
|I have mentioned this event in my Live Feeds recaps, but it is getting more and more attention and people asking about it, so I will now discuss the Frankie Grande rape jokes on Big Brother 2014. Didn’t we get enough of this talk during Big Brother 15??? Either way, we have some controversy on Big Brother 16 now and, of course, it centers around Frankie! Check out the details below in our Big Brother 2014 spoilers!
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From those that subscribe to the Live Feeds, this all happened about 2:21pm BBT on Saturday, 8/30. It was Frankie, Cody, Caleb, Christine and Derrick just having a general chit chat session and nothing major. They knew they were getting an alcohol delivery that night and they started talking about who would be drinking and that is where it turned ugly.
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To be honest, as much as I dislike Frankie, he was not alone in that room and it was Christine that brought up the topic! They said it would be Cody, Caleb and Victoria being the only ones drinking that night. She tells them not to make love to Victoria that night, but Frankie turns it into Caleb and Cody double teaming Victoria and “taking all of her virginities.”
Sure, it was a tasteless joke, but it was an attempt at a joke and everyone in the room laughed. Derrick said her Dad is probably watching and he would probably bust his computer if it was him. They all laugh and then it proceeds into making more jokes and sexual gestures, but not only by Frankie, but by Derrick too. How is all the attention on Frankie, but no one else in the room? No one stood up for Victoria and said the things being said was wrong. I mean, stand up for a fellow woman Christine? Or stand up for your little puppy dog Derrick?
Victoria’s mother talked to TMZ and she wants Frankie to apologize, but also wants an apology from his sister Ariana Grande and his family! The families of these people should never be involved in any actions the HGs do or say. As much as Frankie has included Ariana Grande into Big Brother 2014, she is not on the show and did not make the statements. Her or his family owe no apology.
To sum it up, it was an attempt at a joke that failed big time (in our opinion). However, the HGs all had a good time with it on Saturday. Frankie should not be kicked out of the Big Brother 2014 house because of it. The petitions going around saying Frankie should be kicked out are a joke. Everyone in that room laughed and went along with the “joke” and made some of their own. Why not kick them all out? We all know that CBS won’t show it, so let’s move past it. Did any of us expect something classy to come out of Frankie’s mouth?
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Everything you said is spot on Todd. I totally detest Frankie (well all of them for that matter) but he was not alone in his derogatory comments. I think why Frankie was targeted is because he kept on and on with the “joke”. He went overboard. Plus the fact that the dislike of him was started back when he made his big reveal. The Victoria joke was one more thing to add to the list of viewers that already disliked him. As for me, i’m putting this topic to rest. I won’t comment on it any more. I have no doubt that Frankie will pay the price for his comments by losing fan support not only from BB fans but his Youtube audience also. Not much more will occur. He won’t get off scot free. So for me – moving on.
Same here Cat, enough said. What goes around comes around, as you said, he won’t get off scot free.
I have my doubts that this subject will drop anytime soon. It is much too controversial.
I am afraid you are right.
This whole thing was a mess. They should not have had this conversation. Frankie is the target more because of the dislike everybody has for him. Christine should have said something in Victoria’s defense though. And Derrick is a cop!! But I am not surprised at anything that comes out of these fools mouths. They act like little children. Frankie will loose a lot of any fans he has on you tube. He will pay the price for it. And again Derrick is a cop!!! After last year and all the racist crap CBS did show on TV I just hope they don’t show this conversation. As Cat said, now I am through with this. Time to move on.
One more thing about Derrick, he has a young daughter!!!!
I know! How would he feel if they were talking about his daughter. Sometimes it is hard to move on when the subject is as delicate as this one is. I just can’t believe CBS didn’t stop it as soon as the first words came out of there mouths
I agree wholeheartedly Mary.
Agree 100%, Todd.
And I didn’t mean the people on this site need to move past it, but I was meaning everyone in general. It is all over the place and every media outlet is covering, even those that gave up on BB16 a long time ago. People try to make something out of nothing and I think this is one of those cases.
I can see that. Not everyone will get past it. Different strokes for different folks.
Todd
do you have any suggestions for some new topics of conversations?
Caleb being an idiot. The Double Eviction coming up. Who goes next? Who will be the first one The Detonators will turn on?
I am thankful that I didn’t waste my time with BB this past weekend (except Sunday’s show). Once I read that Christine won Veto I was pretty much done with rest of the regular season. I will watch the show and wait to vote for Donny as Fan Favorite. I will still pop in here and chat with my BB family but honestly this season has just worn me down and turned me off of BB USA.
I purchased the Live Feeds (thru this site) mainly to support Todd and his crew that keep this site going…..but I can honestly say that I think I may have actually sat and watched the feeds 5 or 6 times this season. Just disappointed overall with this season and these Jellyfish!
Only glimmer of something good coming out of this season is Donny winning FF.
Hi Lady from Mass.
Hey mrk, my fellow New Englander! Hope all is well 🙂
I am doing ok. Unreal heat for September up here. Double Indian Summer?
Totally disagree with you. The words came out of Frankie’s mouth. Cody actually told him it was foul. Derrick told him Victoria’s father was going to be pissed (paraphrasing). Frankie kept it up with the gestures. The fact that other people were laughing doesn’t negate that Frankie and Frankie alone has to own this and live with the fall out.
Derrick made sexual gestures. Caleb said there would be blood everywhere. Christine brought up the topic to begin with. Why single out Frankie? For being the most vocal about it? They all were there and no one said stop it right now or did they leave the room.
Yes, absolutely single out Frankie for being the most vocal. Christine brought it up by saying there’s going to be alcohol so don’t hit on Victoria? That’s not the same as saying why don’t you two gang bang Victoria which is what Frankie said. You can spin this all you want, but Frankie needs to answer for this.
Well said Mickey, TY
What about Derricks se*ual gestures. Is that negated by his statement that her father might be watching? In my opinion that’s as bad (or almost) because he KNOWS her father might be watching yet he continues to demonstrate how it should be done. Just a thought. None of them are innocent.
Agree, Cat. Besides, Derrick is supposed to be her “brother” or friend in the house! I couldn’t tell exactly what Derrick’s hip thrusts were supposed to be imitating, but I would think Victoria would be hurt most by Derrick’s laughing rather than Frankie being Frankie.
So, let me get this straight, Derrick KNOWS her father is watching, but Frankie doesn’t? That’s a lame argument.
No, Derrick was keenly AWARE of being on live tv when they were saying these things. Yet he laughed and made the hip thrusts. Not to mention Derrick is supposed to be more mature. He is a father, after all.
And Frankie was not keenly aware of being on live TV? Frankie is 31 years old, he should know better. He is no kid.
No, listen, this whole thing puts me in the awkward position of sounding like I’m defending Frankie. I most certainly am NOT. All I’m saying is there were 5 people in that room, all of them participating and condoning the convo in varying degrees. Frankie was the most “colorful” and vulgar. Absolutely. But he didn’t get there himself. Christine started the conversation. Caleb mentioned blood, and Derrick introduced Zingbot (which is what Frankie was imitating).
The whole thing was REPULSIVE. I hope Frankie pays a very dear price outside the house for his lack of judgment. I hope the others do ALSO.
I agree.
And – to my other point – though Frankie’s actions were the most visibly vulgar, I argue Derrick carries just a bit more guilt because Victoria WILL be hurt when she sees that. Also, he has a daughter, and that whole convo should have made him uncomfortable. Instead, he laughed loudly.
Exactly, how would he feel if it was his daughter they were talking about. I know I said I was moving on but it’s hard when I read these comments. It all so true what you say and the whole conversation was so uncalled for. And why did CBS let them carry on with this. Why didn’t they stop it?
What gets me is, and I repeat, Derrick is a cop!! How can he talk about this. If I ever had an inch of respect for him man it just went out the window.
No, my point was that Derrick was the one that brought it up which signifies that he is aware of how it might look yet continues with the demonstration. I’m just saying that none of them are innocent in this situation.
I can agree on that point.
Oh, I certainly hope he will (and I think he will). But INside the house … they won’t do anything to him. Whether they bend his ear about watching his tongue in the future? No idea.
Go! Mickey …..Frankie will his just due, scum always does
Well said Mickey, I agree Frankie is the being singled out because of who he is and who he is related to and that was by his choice to bring his sister into the show and she is getting a lot of publicity because of the show and her brother. IMO these hgs should not be kicked off the show just like BB15 they were not kicked off for all their racist behavoir were those hgs on bb15 “jokes” Rape or even the suggestion of the two gang bang Victoriia is horrific and NOT a laughing matter and should never be a so called “JOKE”. This so called joke happens and still happens to young women and because they didn’t use the word RAPE, this is what you want us to move on from because it was a 2 min. joke. This is what some young men feel they can justify is ok to do because they were all drunk. Just another disappointing boring season. I hope Derrick and Frankie get ramifications from this. Derrick being a cop and father should be ashamed of himself. These
These HGs are OLD enough to know what they are saying and doing (gestures) on LIVE TV…No excuse for these idiots.
I never said he didn’t, but I also think some of the others in that room should be answering too. Why is it okay for Caleb and Derrick to go along with the joke then? Thrusting Victoria and pretending to be the Zingbot with the “beer goggles” on? That’s fine?
They all should pay for what was done period.
FRANKIE said there would be blood everywhere , do not rewrite history
Actually, it was Caleb who made that statement.
Right! Caleb made the blood comment.
Can’t rewrite history when there is video of it. Caleb said they would ruin her and there would be blood all over the place.
Sure hope we don’t have to look at this picture of Frankie(nstine) for very long. Just looking at him is enough to make me lose my lunch 🙁
Photo is getting boring
I have heard the rumors about the conversation and have not seen it firsthand. Please take this is the light it is being written in. Personally except for Donny and a few others I would not walk across the street to meet anyone from 15 or 16. So here it goes……
Why is this any less offensive than what became national news in BB15? Last year is was a gay slander and racial slurs. This year it was rape but I am not seeing the same level of concern by anyone. Rape or the joking thereof is much more offensive than calling a person a name in my opinion. I would say what Frankie and now I am learning the group, committed a more atrocious disgusting act by joking about that.
I also think that Frankie’s sister should make a comment about rape and the seriousness about the discussions around rape. She has benefited more than any other family member from the exposure of a BB houseguest in the US with her interviews and media attention during the start of her tour and record release and as a public figure needs to make some kind of acknowledgement. This is of course my opinion. Hope everyone understands my viewpoint.
Who can disregard a well-thought-out opinion, even if it differs from mine?
I don’t think anyone is saying this is LESS than the bad things said last season. BB15 won the award for the MOST hgs who had no filter on live tv. Week after week we watched with gaping mouths at the ignorant things they said.
But this convo was about 2 minutes long. Even though I DETEST Frankie’s antics, I don’t personally believe anyone in that room thought they were laughing about rape. (Though I understand the argument that a drunk woman wouldn’t exactly make a consensual partner.) It was locker room humor in the poorest of taste and human decency. No one was seriously threatening Victoria’s virginity or her safety. That’s why we should move on.
Thank you Lilly. I guess I am glad I am not in those locker rooms. It would have been interesting to see if one person would have used a single wrong word to Frankie about gender or Jocasta about race if there would have been as much as or more levels of discussion. This is just a very close to the target topic.
That is interesting. We know from last season, certainly, that those comments on BB15 generated LONG, loud debate! I certainly (along with Todd, I feel confident) don’t want anyone to cease discussing it if they have more to talk about. It’s just that all the discussion about removing Frankie from the house is a little pointless. As Todd said, they didn’t do it last year, and they aren’t going to do it this year. Period.
We can only hope that Frankie will meet with similar complications in his life as those who had to answer for their words last year!
I just wish CBS would stop this stuff from the get go. They should never have let that go on last year like it did and they should have stopped this this year after the first sentence. I don’t understand why CBS doesn’t stop stuff like this. Last year was a hot mess and they should never have let that go on Never. They should have stopped it, sent them home or whatever it took.
interesting view
This is my first post here. i just wanted to say you said everything i wanted to say but couldn’t put into words thank you. and thank you all for your comments.
And I agree with you Jon 110% !!!
Good point taken. I officially vote for BB16 as worse that BB15 for the reasons Jon mentioned.
There was worse said in last years BB house and it went on and on and on – so this is a 1 tiime thing – let it rest.
What’s going on? Any new strategy by the BB’s? Lots of web commentary on Victoria. Cannot wait to see the final outcome of it all. My friend in Vegas saw odds on betting whether BB16 is less liked than BB15 Amazing the nonsense these shows get away with.
Have been quiet these past days as not much happens in the house… Am really loosing interest in the show and the IMMATURE KIDS!!! They all would be sent on a deserted island until they are mature!!! As far as the so-called joke? Rape is no joking matter!!! If you are to joke about rape, make fun of Frankie for being gay, Christine for being a cheat and a s…,… They are all immature and they don’t deserve that we use their so called joke outside the house! Sorry, needed to vent out and answer some of the comments I read…
I want to say that the group on this site for the last few seasons has been the best part of the BB experience for seasons 15 and 16. I think it is great if you look at the conversations through the season and how a player is a fav then an idiot then hated then back on top again, is great. I was looking at my comments in the first couple of posts a while back and how I liked Frankie and Christine and let’s not forget Devin… remember Devin?!! The best thing about BB is the passion it brings out in the fans. You say every year that you will never watch again but in March you find out the details of the new season and wham, hooked again. Are these guys the worst group of HG, no not by a long shot. We have had boring summers in the past. Anytime there is a strong alliance and alliance members not willing to be the first to strike the season will be boring. Sometimes Survivor is the same way. The difference this year IMO is that there is no strong presence that is making it fun. I think Frankie was supposed to be the comic relieve but he got old very quick and is as transparent as a dollar store tissue. We will be wrapping this season up soon but I wanted to let all know that no matter how much I threaten to leave I will be back next year if you will have me to discuss the that then “biggest bunch of idiots on TV”. I will be leaving for Jamaica in the next few weeks for an extended holiday. Will be very busy and might not be able to post but will try to keep up. Todd send me the link to any survivor posts once they are set up if different. You did a great job as always and considering the material you had to work with you get top marks.
when family get involved like his sister on twitter and on show they are as responsible as he is, for they are there to promote him so they are responsible as he is,
Derrick too????? Isn’t he a police officer?? Shame on him–shame shame.
Well bbjudy some cops are called Pigs lol
now that’s funny 🙂
He also has a young daughter.
Yup the Pig
You are absolutely correct Todd and I for one apologize for jumping the gun before even seeing the clip. I watched it and saw that it was not all Frankie. I don’t even think rape was an issue. I believe their main debate was her virginity which is none of their business. Christine should have spoke up and defended her as a woman but those boys should not have made fun of her believes or her personal choice. It was all in poor taste and they should be ashamed. As far as being kicked off the show. I don’t think any should be. I also don’t know why Ariana would have to apologize.
Yes I will give you all that , they all were in on it. but as a parent how would you like tuning in to a reality show and hearing someone say that about your daughter or son…and watching them all laughing , espicially the one person you thought had your childs back..I would want them all booted out…and if family should not be involved then keep the live feeds down when they are boozing to improve ratings or I am sorry to make it less boring..
BTW i disliked Frankenstein long before that aired…
Sandy, as a parent of a young woman, I agree with you completely about the atrociousness of this conversation. I try to live my life in absolutes. I believe right is right and wrong is wrong; black is black and white is white.
But in my personal life, I would disapprove of a LOT of things that are perfectly acceptable in the BB game (and I’ve actually wrestled with that a great deal over the years). Lying. Manipulating. Laziness. Back-stabbing. Etc.
I don’t want to speak for Todd, but the distinction that I make in agreeing with Todd is that this is BB. I DISAPPROVE 100% with that conversation. I don’t like it in real life, and I don’t approve in the BB house. But these people are living under a microscope. Yes, they should have known better than to have laughed at those vulgar things (ESPECIALLY at the expense of their “friend”). But what happened here was an extremely immature moment caught on camera. I sincerely hope ALL of them reap the consequences of ALL their actions in the house, including this one.
But to equate this conversation anywhere close to a group of guys talking about raping a real person is not valid. They did not threaten Victoria, literally or figuratively. So booting them out of a game is not reasonable. In my opinion.
Very well said Lilly and I agree totally. You add alcohol to the equation and no one acts or talks like they normally would sober.
The joke was in very poor taste. Frankie acts like a 12 year old schoolgirl, and it’s way past his bedtime.
Well said!
I could not agree more DubDivo, and I hope he goes home tonight in the double elimination. Lets all pray anyway. Derrick you are a fool a BIG fool.
I really hope so too Carol in SC. Originally I thought he would be the” funny guy” in the house, but he’s become the “a$$hole” in the house.
I could not agree more.
BS frankies Mom is all over twitter .. she owns Victorias mom an apology
Frankie also said Jacosta should kill herself
Zach should be euthanized
Yes he did. Which is another reason he’s not liked by the fans. He’s mean spirited and doesn’t take being crossed very well.